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21 January 2020

Avoiding Sales Burnout, Getting Real Engagement + Marketing Made Easy

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 2

Myth Buster12:34

You Do Not Need a Huge Audience Before You Start Selling

Asked how large an audience must be before selling, Jasmine rejects the idea of a fixed minimum. Small lists can produce strong launches, although a larger audience improves the statistical opportunity and should inform realistic expectations.

  • There is no universal minimum audience size for selling.
  • A list of only 15 people can still produce a successful launch.
  • Audience size helps forecast volume but does not determine whether selling is allowed.
  • Offer price and quality can create substantial outliers.

“No, it doesn't matter.”

Jasmine Star · 12:42

“numbers don't matter, but numbers help.”

Jasmine Star · 12:52
#audience#launches#selling#conversion
Myth Buster28:33

Automatic Cross-Posting Does Not Make Content Platform-Native

Instagram Stories can be pushed automatically to Facebook, but their polls, sliders, and stickers may not remain interactive. Jasmine argues that broken engagement tools communicate that the Facebook audience received leftovers, so creators should upload directly and add native Facebook features.

  • Instagram interaction tools may break when pushed to Facebook.
  • Broken controls frustrate viewers and suppress engagement.
  • Download and upload the underlying media directly when necessary.
  • Add engagement tools native to the destination platform.
  • Platform adaptation can preserve the same core story without recreating everything.

“the voting mechanisms and the stickers and the engagement tools that work on Instagram don't carry over to Facebook.”

Jasmine Star · 28:51

“Oh you're the leftovers, not in Tupperware.”

Jasmine Star · 29:03
#cross-posting#facebook#instagram#engagement

Explainer· 1

Explainer18:11

Prove a Brand-Building Method Works Beyond the Expert Who Created It

Jill plans to document herself building a beauty and fashion brand from scratch, but Jasmine questions whether success could be dismissed as the “Jill factor.” She suggests bringing two or three other businesses through the same process so the project tests the method across different founders and outcomes.

  • An expert's success may be attributed to personal advantages rather than the method.
  • Applying the principles to several businesses creates stronger evidence.
  • Different participant outcomes expose where the method needs adjustment.
  • The experiment becomes more compelling when success is not predetermined.

“how do we say it's not the Jill factor, but it's the build a brand factor.”

Jasmine Star · 18:27

“But can Jill take along two or three other businesses and apply the same principles and get met with the same results?”

Jasmine Star · 20:05
#build-in-public#branding#experiments#proof

Q&A· 1

Q&A10:17

What Would Your 2025 Self Tell You About Today's Constraints?

Jasmine asks Kendra to imagine a future in which both businesses are established, revenue is balanced, and her children are in school. Kendra concludes that she should not demand that future capacity today or wish away valuable time with her daughter.

  • Use the future self as a source of perspective rather than pressure.
  • Present caregiving time has value that later business capacity cannot replace.
  • Long-term goals do not need to be achieved on today's timeline.
  • Accepting current limits can reduce unnecessary stress.

“What does Kendra of 2025 say to Kendra of today?”

Jasmine Star · 10:48

“right now I just need to give it what I can give it and then not stress about the time.”

Kendra Swalls · 11:19
#future-self#parenthood#perspective#self-compassion

Tool· 1

Tool21:29

Turn Program Applicants Into a Distributed Promotion Network

Jasmine proposes a rigorous Google Forms application for people who want Jill to rebuild their brands. Requiring each applicant to publish a public Instagram video creates commitment, filters for people willing to follow instructions, and spreads the project through every applicant's audience.

  • Use an application to capture current size, objectives, and fit.
  • Require enough effort to screen out participants unlikely to complete the work.
  • Make a public Instagram declaration part of the application.
  • Collect the public post URL for verification.
  • Keep applications public until review is complete.
  • Each applicant's post expands awareness of the project.

“if they can't number one follow directions and if they can't, number two put forth a proper application.”

Jasmine Star · 21:49

“Oh you get eyes on it by having other people promote it.”

Jasmine Star · 23:44
#applications#user-generated-content#promotion#instagram

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway03:44

A New Creative Pursuit Can Strengthen the Business That Got You Here

Jasmine gives Kendra permission to explore coaching without treating it as betrayal of her established photography career. She argues that a systematized revenue-generating business can coexist with a new creative pursuit and may even benefit when its owner finds fulfillment elsewhere.

  • Express gratitude for the career that created current opportunities.
  • A systematized business can create room for another pursuit.
  • Creative fulfillment elsewhere does not automatically weaken the original business.
  • Guilt is not evidence that the new venture is strategically wrong.

“it is okay to have an affair with creativity.”

Jasmine Star · 03:50

“yours photography business can flourish as a result of you finding creative creativity and fulfillment in a different Avenue.”

Jasmine Star · 04:50
#creativity#multipassionate#career#mindset
Takeaway21:08

What Fails May Teach the Audience More Than What Works

Jasmine encourages Jill not to fear uneven outcomes among the businesses participating in her brand-building project. If one account gains thousands of followers while another gains almost none, diagnosing and correcting that gap can provide more instructive content than a flawless success story.

  • Participant outcomes do not need to be uniform.
  • Unexpected failure creates a concrete diagnostic problem.
  • The guide's job is to assess what happened and attempt a correction.
  • Audiences often learn more from troubleshooting than effortless success.

“your only objective then would be to assess what is going on and how do you fix it.”

Jasmine Star · 21:16

“people learn more from what's not working than what's working.”

Jasmine Star · 21:21
#failure#experimentation#learning#content
Takeaway33:12

A Failed Launch Is Not a Personal Rejection

Jasmine describes previously taking weak launches personally until she separated her identity from the offer. Once an audience says no, the useful response is to create a different offer they may accept or bring the existing offer to a newly expanded audience.

  • A purchase decision concerns an offer, not the creator's worth.
  • Emotional interpretation obscures practical options.
  • One option is to create or improve the offer.
  • Another option is to expand the audience before presenting it again.

“they're not saying no to me, they're saying no to that offer.”

Jasmine Star · 33:24

“I get to create a new offer that they may say yes to”

Jasmine Star · 33:33
#launches#rejection#mindset#offers