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Kathrin Zenkina30 November 2023

Creating the Life You Love with Kathrin Zenkina

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Explainer· 2

Explainer24:09

Why Kathrin Rehearses the Best Outcome Before a Scary Action

Kathrin argues that people often use visualization unintentionally by rehearsing humiliation, failure, or catastrophe. She recommends deliberately imagining a successful passage through the feared event and pairing that imagery with nervous-system regulation before taking action.

  • Check breathing, posture, physiology, and focus
  • Use breathwork or tapping to reduce perceived threat
  • Avoid repeatedly visualizing a worst-case scenario
  • Mentally rehearse the desired process before acting

“Or you can use mental rehearsal to visualize the best possible outcome.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 25:28
#visualization#nervous system#fear#rehearsal
Explainer51:22

Why Launch Pressure Can Block the Thinking a Launch Requires

Kathrin contrasts desperate “need” energy with a more detached “bonus” orientation. She argues that perceived life-or-death pressure activates fight-or-flight responses and makes logic, strategy, focus, humor, and solution-finding harder to access during a launch.

  • Artificial deadlines can turn desire into perceived survival pressure
  • Fight-or-flight is poorly suited to strategic launch decisions
  • Need-based identity stakes increase attempts to control outcomes
  • Wanting an outcome without needing it preserves flexibility

“When you're in a launch, you need some blood in your brain”

Kathrin Zenkina · 52:04

“And bonus energy is, like I said, like I want it, but I don't need to have it.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 52:26
#launches#pressure#stress#strategy

Story· 5

Story01:35

Kathrin Canceled Her Entire Summer and Still Made Millions

Hearing that Lori planned to take the summer off prompted Kathrin to reconsider a packed schedule of launches, course creation, and photoshoots. She called an emergency executive meeting, canceled the plans, spent the summer with her baby, and returned refreshed while her team kept the business performing.

  • A casual remark exposed how exhausted Kathrin felt
  • She canceled launches, course creation, and photoshoots
  • Her team maintained the business during her absence
  • Rest changed the energy she brought back to work

“I literally the next day called an emergency executive meeting, canceled my whole summer, spent the whole summer with my baby, and still made millions…”

Kathrin Zenkina · 01:59

“And I heard this voice say, and, Kathryn, you're going to take the whole summer off.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 01:35
#rest#team#burnout#parenthood
Story03:21

The Question That Ended Kathrin's Medical-School Plan

Kathrin grew up believing that medicine was one of the only acceptable paths to success. During a Tony Robbins event, the repeated question “who are you living for?” forced her to recognize that medical school, her location, and her relationship reflected other people's expectations more than her own desires.

  • Her immigrant family presented a narrow set of respectable careers
  • Completing even the basic medical-school application felt dreadful
  • She recognized that the dream belonged to her parents
  • She chose business, Los Angeles, and the end of a comfortable relationship

“And I heard this voice in my head, go, Kathryn, who are you living for?”

Kathrin Zenkina · 08:57

“And I realized that I was pursuing this dream. That wasn't my own dream.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 09:52
#career#family#intuition#identity
Story04:07

How The Secret Redirected a Future Doctor at Age 16

A friend gave 16-year-old Kathrin a copy of The Secret after describing a successful grandfather who made money work for him. The book introduced her to manifestation and began a parallel education in spirituality and personal development while she continued studying biology.

  • The Secret was Kathrin's introduction to manifestation
  • She consumed Abraham Hicks and Wayne Dyer alongside biology coursework
  • Personal development initially seemed like a tool for succeeding in medicine
  • Online business later showed her that mindset itself could become her work

“And he doesn't work for money. Money works for him.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 04:07

“In the book was The Secret. So this is my introduction to the Law of Attraction and Manifestation.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 04:07
#books#manifestation#career#education
Story58:13

An Uber Driver Called Manifestation Lying—Then Bought the Book

An early-morning Uber driver challenged Kathrin by saying manifestation sounded like lying to yourself. She agreed provocatively, contrasting his story that life was not working with her story that it was; after the flight, she found a message saying the exchange changed his outlook and prompted him to buy her book.

  • The driver rejected Kathrin's explanation of manifestation
  • Kathrin reframed both pessimism and optimism as constructed stories
  • The response initially sounded unusually aggressive to her
  • The driver later said the conversation changed his life

“I do lie to myself. Just like you lie to yourself that life isn't working out for you. I lie to myself that life is…”

Kathrin Zenkina · 59:10

“if I'm going to lie to myself, it might as well be a really good lie that works for me and gets me what I…”

Kathrin Zenkina · 59:10
#skepticism#manifestation#storytelling#perspective
Story1:00:29

Both Women Assumed the Other Was Too Intimidating to Befriend

Kathrin admits that she spent a mastermind year believing Jasmine and Lori were too cool, attractive, and popular to speak with her. Jasmine reveals she had also felt intimidated, exposing how mutual insecurity can prevent connections both people might welcome.

  • Kathrin assumed the other women would never talk to her
  • Jasmine had independently felt intimidated by Kathrin
  • Neither person's private story reflected the other's actual view
  • The exchange ends with permission to assume friendship is possible

“I looked at you two and I was like, there's no way in hell these two women are ever going to talk to me.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 1:00:29

“I was super intimidated. I was like, not going to be that girl's friend.”

Jasmine Star · 1:00:59
#friendship#insecurity#networking#assumptions

Tool· 2

Tool21:48

The Rocking Chair Exercise Shrinks Fear of Other People's Opinions

Kathrin describes imagining herself at age 80 and looking back on what she was proud to have done and whose opinions truly mattered. The perspective highlights that she alone must live with the consequences of not trying, while most observers notice an unusual choice only briefly before returning to their own lives.

  • Imagine reviewing your life from age 80
  • Identify whose opinions still matter from that perspective
  • Compare social discomfort with the long-term cost of not trying
  • Remember that observers are usually focused on themselves

“It's called the rocking chair exercise. And it's like you're sitting in a rocking chair. You're 80 years old.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 21:48

“when I'm the only one who's going to live with the consequences of not doing something, I'm the only one who's going to live with…”

Kathrin Zenkina · 21:57
#regret#perspective#fear#courage
Tool32:01

Borrow a Loved One's Perspective to Challenge a Cruel Belief

After overhearing a family member criticize her postpartum body, Kathrin imagined her son receiving the same judgments. The belief immediately sounded false and cruel when applied to someone she loved unconditionally, helping her extend that compassion back to herself.

  • A personal insult reactivated earlier body-image programming
  • Kathrin imagined the same claim being directed at her son
  • Third-person distance made the distortion easier to recognize
  • Unconditional love supplied a more compassionate perspective

“And one of my tips that I give for, like squashing a limiting belief, is to put in third person perspective.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 33:46

“And instantly I looked at him and it just was like, well, of course that's a lie.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 34:16
#self-compassion#body image#reframing#family

Takeaway· 3

Takeaway20:18

Kathrin's Platform-Growth Lesson: Excitement Drives Consistency

Kathrin's Facebook group, Instagram account, live coffee chats, and eventual podcast reinforced one another. Her broader lesson was that the platform she genuinely wanted to use was usually the one that grew, because enthusiasm supported sustained participation.

  • Facebook and Instagram sent audiences to each other
  • Live recordings created the need for an organized podcast archive
  • Community growth preceded large audience numbers
  • Platform enthusiasm supported consistent output

“And the Facebook group fed the Instagram, the Instagram fed the Facebook group”

Kathrin Zenkina · 21:06

“whatever platform that I was in most excited about, the platform that I wanted to be on, was the one that was growing.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 21:06
#social media#community#podcasting#content
Takeaway41:44

Stop Turning Passing Thoughts Into Personal Identities

Kathrin tells Lori that warnings about difficult marriages or punishing businesses only become personally determinative when they are internalized. Thoughts can arise without being adopted as identity, allowing a person to choose intentionally what to focus on and create.

  • Common warnings are not automatically personal destiny
  • A thought can occur without becoming an identity
  • Repeated focus can become a self-fulfilling prophecy
  • Intentional focus should begin with the desired experience

“You're not taking that on as an identity.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 42:34

“I think a lot of people, they hear thoughts and they think that their thoughts are them, or they think that their thoughts are identities…”

Kathrin Zenkina · 42:34
#thoughts#identity#beliefs#focus
Takeaway54:47

Kathrin's Best Launch Days Felt Like Ordinary Workdays

Kathrin recalls becoming superstitious during weaker launches, linking signups to irrelevant rituals and daily events. Her stronger launches came when she stayed relaxed, treated enrollment like normal business mechanics, and gave herself permission to learn and reopen later if needed.

  • Fear encouraged superstitious interpretations of daily events
  • Ordinary routines reduced perceived stakes
  • Enrollment became mechanics after preparation was complete
  • A launch date is a chosen business structure, not an irreversible verdict

“if I treated my launches, especially the enrollment days, like any other day in my business, they would be the most successful”

Kathrin Zenkina · 55:23

“At that point it's already done. It's just a matter of mechanics.”

Kathrin Zenkina · 55:23
#launches#entrepreneurship#stress#execution