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28 October 2025

How I’m Wooing My Next Executive Hire; Building a Dream Team Starts with THIS

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Hot Take· 1

Hot Take31:54

Jasmine Would Rather Wait Than Compromise on the Operator

Even with an urgent leadership need and active interviews underway, Jasmine rejects the idea of filling the role quickly for its own sake. She intends to wait for a candidate who combines the necessary experience, trustworthiness, ambition, and service orientation.

  • Active interviews do not guarantee an offer.
  • The role’s specificity raises the cost of a poor hire.
  • Urgency should not erase essential standards.
  • Waiting is preferable to installing the wrong executive.

“You want to know why I'm not going to rush a dang thing? I'm going to wait for the perfect person.”

Jasmine Star · 31:54
#patience#hiring#standards#operators

Explainer· 2

Explainer14:20

The Role Split That Keeps a Founder in Her Place of Power

Jasmine distinguishes her desired visionary role from the operator’s mandate. She wants to remain involved in Consistent 10-K while transferring funnels, marketing execution, strategic content operations, hiring, structures, and day-to-day control to a capable leader.

  • The founder remains involved without operating the daily business.
  • The operator spans strategy and granular execution.
  • Hiring and organizational structure belong within the operator’s remit.
  • Clear role boundaries support scale.

“What I want to do is I want to be the visionary and I want to stay in my place of power.”

Jasmine Star · 14:20

“I actually do not want to operate the day to day.”

Jasmine Star · 14:20
#visionary#operations#scaling#leadership
Explainer16:36

Why the Dream Handoff Needed a Four-Month Runway

Katie’s pregnancy made leadership succession more urgent, but the team did not want a temporary maternity-cover solution. Their ideal outcome was several months of side-by-side work so the new operator could permanently assume the business unit while Katie moved into broader presidential oversight.

  • The target onboarding window covered roughly four months.
  • Side-by-side work was intended to transfer tacit knowledge.
  • The incoming leader would retain control after maternity leave.
  • Katie would move upward into broader oversight rather than reclaiming daily operations.

“we would have like a four month runway for this person”

Jasmine Star · 16:36

“this person cannot just take it over during maternity leave, this person takes it over”

Jasmine Star · 16:36
#succession#maternity-leave#onboarding#operations

Story· 3

Story04:48

Celebrating the Candidate Who Joined Someone Else

A sales leader Jasmine wanted had already accepted a director role in another entrepreneur’s company. Instead of responding with resentment, Jasmine sent a voice memo celebrating both the candidate and the other business, using the moment to reinforce her belief that a better-aligned person could still emerge.

  • The preferred candidate had already accepted another role.
  • Jasmine responded with sincere congratulations.
  • Celebrating another person’s success created emotional space.
  • She treated the missed hire as redirection rather than defeat.

“when you see something you want in the world, celebrate it, celebrate it.”

Jasmine Star · 04:48

“I am celebrating you. I am celebrating this other person's business. He is so fortunate to have you.”

Jasmine Star · 04:48
#rejection#abundance#leadership
Story27:50

The Rejection That Made the Candidate More Impressive

The preferred candidate declined because she had been hired for operations and her CEO was on maternity leave. Jasmine was disappointed but interpreted the decision as evidence of loyalty, alignment, and character—the same qualities that had made the candidate attractive.

  • The candidate’s CEO was on maternity leave.
  • Changing jobs would have conflicted with the candidate’s current responsibilities.
  • Jasmine respected the decision despite her disappointment.
  • The refusal reinforced the candidate’s perceived integrity.

“this person didn't feel like it was in alignment to take on a new position given the structure of that current business, which I deeply…”

Jasmine Star · 27:50

“It wasn't easy to hear, but I deeply respect it, and I think it says a lot about this person.”

Jasmine Star · 27:50
#integrity#loyalty#recruiting
Story29:54

Why Jasmine Personally Replied to Every Interested Applicant

Although Jasmine commonly uses trigger-word automations on Instagram, she deliberately answered potential applicants herself. Personal replies helped her see who in her audience was drawn to the role and gave interested people a direct path to the complete job description.

  • The recruiting post used a familiar trigger-word format.
  • Jasmine intentionally disabled the usual automated response.
  • Every interested person received a personal direct message.
  • The replies also revealed what kinds of operators existed within her audience.

“So I did not automate it.”

Jasmine Star · 29:54

“Anybody who's expressed interest that they wanted to be like interested in this role, I sent them a personal DM”

Jasmine Star · 29:54
#instagram#recruiting#candidate-experience

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway02:00

Why Jasmine Hears “Not Right Now” Instead of “No”

Jasmine reframes rejection as a timing problem rather than a permanent verdict. The belief lets her make ambitious requests, respect the current answer, and remain open to future alignment without treating rejection as personal failure.

  • Rejection does not always indicate permanent incompatibility.
  • A timing-based interpretation makes ambitious outreach easier.
  • The current boundary should still be respected.
  • Future alignment remains possible without guaranteed success.

“I don't actually ever hear when somebody says no, I only ever hear. It's just not right now.”

Jasmine Star · 02:00

“I am unafraid of getting no's because I only hear not right now.”

Jasmine Star · 05:48
#rejection#resilience#mindset
Takeaway30:59

Why Capability Alone Is Not Enough for a Close Executive Hire

Jasmine emphasizes that an executive entering her private business environment must align with the brand’s values, share its appetite for building, and be trusted implicitly. Her diligence extends beyond listed references to other people who have worked with the candidate.

  • Technical capability is only one part of executive fit.
  • Personal and brand values must align.
  • The role requires an appetite for ambitious building rather than balance.
  • Reference diligence can extend beyond candidate-supplied contacts.
  • Trust carries unusual weight in a close founder-executive relationship.

“I am not just looking to hire somebody who can get the job done.”

Jasmine Star · 30:59

“I need to know that I can trust them implicitly.”

Jasmine Star · 31:54
#values#trust#references#executive-hiring