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23 June 2020

How to Use TikTok for Your Business Without Embarrassing Dance Videos with Jera Foster-Fell

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster34:18

TikTok Is Not Reserved for Teenagers or Broad Niches

Jera rejects the belief that TikTok is only for young creators. She points to grandparents and a specialist who teaches babies to survive falling into pools as evidence that unusual ages, professions, interests, and tightly defined niches can attract attention.

  • Older creators can build interested audiences.
  • Highly specialized educational content can succeed.
  • Popular categories are not the only viable choices.
  • The platform accommodates hobbies as well as businesses.

“I think team talk is available to every single one.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 34:34

“there there's space for everyone, every niche, every age, every interest, every hobby business unit.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 35:22
#tiktok demographics#niches#age#inclusion

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take41:10

Why Copying TikTok Features Would Not Give Instagram TikTok's Reach

Jasmine and Jera consider whether Instagram could neutralize TikTok by copying its editing tools, as Stories copied Snapchat. They conclude that TikTok's differentiator is not merely production features but its For You discovery system and comparatively open organic reach—advantages Snapchat never possessed.

  • Instagram can copy editing features more easily than discovery dynamics.
  • TikTok's raw production aesthetic differs from Instagram's expectations.
  • The For You system can expose posts beyond an existing follower network.
  • Snapchat lacked comparable public discoverability.
  • Crowding makes Instagram resemble a congested eight-lane highway.

“one of the beautiful things about tech talk is the possibility of the organic reach.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 43:15

“right now, tick tock is an eight lane highway with very few cars on it.”

Jasmine Star · 44:12
#discoverability#organic reach#instagram#snapchat#platform strategy

Explainer· 2

Explainer23:13

Why One TikTok Takes Minutes and Another Takes an Hour

Jera distinguishes simple talking-head tips from transition-heavy challenges involving costumes, camera alignment, and clip matching. A direct 15-second lesson can be recorded and posted quickly, while a challenge such as Wipe It Down can require extensive staging and editing.

  • Production time varies substantially by video concept.
  • Costume changes and transitions require planning and clip alignment.
  • A simple talking-head tip needs little setup or polish.
  • Perfect lighting and appearance are not prerequisites.

“There's going to be different levels of video creation.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 23:13

“you do not need to look perfect for tip top or have perfect lighting.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 25:01
#production#video workflow#editing#tiktok
Explainer38:28

Three Revenue Paths Jera Has Seen on TikTok

Jera identifies sponsored posts, direct sales, and client discovery as practical monetization routes. She had secured clients who found her through TikTok, while a friend reportedly generated a five-figure course launch by promoting solely on the platform.

  • Brands pay for sponsored TikTok posts.
  • Viewers can discover and hire service providers.
  • Creators can directly promote products and courses.
  • TikTok discovery may lead buyers to complete purchases elsewhere.

“I have P two, I think it was two current clients right now because they found me on take tarp.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 39:02

“I believe she had a five figure launch just from promoting it on tape talk.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 39:21
#monetization#sponsored posts#client acquisition#course sales

Story· 4

Story04:22

How Instagram Helped Jera Rebuild Her Life and Career

Jera describes entering 2015 as a stressed graphic designer dealing with social anxiety, loneliness, and stress-related hair loss. A workout program and its Instagram community gave her friendship, creativity, and momentum that eventually redirected her career.

  • She began posting around a workout program in 2015.
  • Instagram created daily social connection during a lonely period.
  • Exercise, community, and creativity formed a reinforcing trifecta.
  • The account ultimately grew beyond its original fitness identity.

“I had no friends.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 04:43

“for the first time in so long, it felt like I had friends”

Jera Foster-Fell · 05:29
#career change#social anxiety#instagram#community
Story06:21

The Winding Career Path Behind Jera's Social Strategy Business

Jera's path included graphic design, personal-training certification, SoulCycle instruction, influencer partnerships, and full-time content creation. A business coach later helped her recognize that her social-media expertise could become a course and client service.

  • She left graphic design and earned a personal-training certification.
  • Repeated SoulCycle rejections preceded becoming an instructor.
  • Brand partnerships developed alongside community growth.
  • A business coach helped turn expertise into the Social Media Saloon.

“a windy windy road.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 06:21

“Sometimes we need someone else to hold that mirror up to us to show us what we're good at and what we're capable of.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 08:12
#career pivots#coaching#entrepreneurship#instagram
Story29:46

The Stranger Who Mocked Jera for Creating in Public

Jasmine recounts how a stranger photographed Jera creating content near the Sydney Opera House and mocked her as an influencer. Jera says criticism still hurts, but reconnecting with the purpose and intended impact of the content keeps judgment from stopping her work.

  • Public creators may be noticed, photographed, and criticized.
  • Pretending judgment never hurts is not a realistic solution.
  • Purpose and intended impact can outweigh discomfort.
  • Other people's opinions do not determine the commercial value of creating.

“I would be a complete liar if I told you that, that stuff doesn't hurt me.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 31:54

“the judgment is always going to be there from someone regardless of what we're doing.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 32:18
#public judgment#creator mindset#confidence#purpose
Story39:40

The Thrifted Jacket TikTok That Drove $20,000 in Sales

Jasmine recounts an artist whose early TikToks received only a few dozen views before a customized Kansas City Chiefs jacket video broke through. Viewers followed the viral product back to her Etsy store and reportedly generated $20,000 in sales.

  • The artist's initial videos attracted roughly 20 to 60 views.
  • She transformed a thrifted leather jacket into a distinctive product.
  • One successful video drove viewers to explore the rest of her store.
  • Persistence through low-performing posts preceded the sales breakthrough.

“She ended up completely doing$20,000 just from people finding her store because they said this jacket so cool.”

Jasmine Star · 40:12

“she tried creating other videos and they were flops, but she said, I kept on going.”

Jasmine Star · 40:20
#etsy#viral product#ecommerce#creator story

Tool· 1

Tool17:20

The External Editing Apps Jera Uses for TikTok

Jera admits that TikTok's native editing interface can be confusing and says she often edits in an outside app before uploading. Her cited options include Splice, Adobe Rush, InShot, and Video Shop, while she still adds music and text inside TikTok.

  • TikTok's creation interface was not fully user-friendly.
  • Splice was Jera's named primary external editor.
  • Adobe Rush, InShot, and Video Shop were additional options.
  • She retained native music and text additions after importing footage.

“I am much more comfort, comfortable using an outside app to edit something that I'm already familiar with”

Jera Foster-Fell · 17:47

“I use splice.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 18:14
#video editing#tiktok tools#splice#content creation

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway11:23

Five Months of TikTok Growth Outpaced Five Years on Instagram

After narrowing her TikTok content, Jera grew from a few hundred followers to roughly 430,000 within several months. Jasmine contrasts that acceleration with Jera's approximately 175,000 Instagram followers accumulated since 2015, illustrating TikTok's unusually strong organic reach at the time.

  • Jera had only a few hundred TikTok followers around February 1, 2020.
  • She gained approximately 10,000 followers during the following month.
  • Growth then accelerated toward roughly 200,000 and later 430,000.
  • Her Instagram audience was about 175,000 after roughly five years.

“from February 1st to March 1st, I grew 10,000 followers”

Jera Foster-Fell · 11:35

“the growth opportunities on Tech-Talk are massive.”

Jasmine Star · 13:14
#tiktok growth#organic reach#instagram#audience
Takeaway27:54

A Strong TikTok Can Become Valuable Instagram Content

The speakers argue that TikTok production time can pay off beyond one platform. Successful or distinctive TikTok videos can be reposted to Instagram, where followers may respond positively to seeing a new side of the creator.

  • TikTok videos can be distributed across other social channels.
  • A proven TikTok concept may also perform elsewhere.
  • Cross-posting exposes an established audience to a new creative style.
  • One production effort can generate assets for multiple platforms.

“when you know, it performs really well, there's a good chance that it will perform on a different platform.”

Jasmine Star · 28:09

“the time that you spent on take talk, I think actually can be quite valuable for Instagram.”

Jera Foster-Fell · 28:32
#repurposing#instagram stories#cross-platform#tiktok