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Dan Fleyshman25 July 2024

Influencer Marketing and Running MULTIPLE Businesses at Once: What You Need to Know with Dan Fleyshman

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Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster39:26

New Technology Does Not Transform Every Market at Once

Dan challenges sweeping claims that a new platform or technology will immediately reshape society everywhere. Adoption often concentrates in particular cities, industries, and demographic groups, while infrastructure, habits, and geography leave many communities largely untouched.

  • Services such as Uber and Postmates work differently outside dense cities.
  • Consumer resistance can delay adoption for years.
  • New technology often changes microcosms rather than the whole population.
  • Many businesses still lack basic social accounts, limiting immediate AI adoption.

“It changes microcosms. Yes. It changes certain pockets of our country.”

Dan Fleyshman · 39:26

“Do you know that most businesses don't have a Facebook account or an Instagram account?”

Dan Fleyshman · 40:10
#technology adoption#geography#consumer behavior#ai

Hot Take· 2

Hot Take23:35

Dan Fleyshman Turns Down Brands That Try to Control His Agency

Dan says expert agencies possess more campaign data than individual brands and should be allowed to execute within their specialty. He rejects even household-name clients when they insist on controlling influencer work, arguing that excessive brand intervention repeatedly damages results.

  • Brands know their products, while specialist agencies know campaign execution.
  • Agency expertise becomes less useful when clients dictate every tactic.
  • Dan says Elevator Studio declines most prospective clients.
  • Large budgets do not compensate for an unworkable client relationship.

“The reason you hire us is because we live and breathe this stuff.”

Dan Fleyshman · 23:35

“I just turned them down without blinking. I don't even think about it.”

Dan Fleyshman · 25:19
#agencies#client management#marketing strategy#autonomy
Hot Take32:50

AI Influencers Are Already Winning Six-Figure Resort Contracts

Dan and Jasmine discuss how convincing synthetic people can already be generated for commercial content. Dan cites an agency producing male and female models who appear to experience hotels and resorts despite never being present, while expressing a personal preference for real people.

  • Synthetic influencer content is already commercially viable.
  • Hotels can depict models using facilities without conducting a physical shoot.
  • Consent-based capture can produce especially convincing digital replicas.
  • Dan expects real human identity to retain value even as synthetic media grows.

“He's posting models, male and female, at resorts that aren't actually there.”

Dan Fleyshman · 34:23

“people will want real humans more than anything.”

Dan Fleyshman · 34:59
#ai influencers#synthetic media#hospitality#authenticity

Explainer· 2

Explainer15:49

Why a Local Legend Can Beat an Influencer With a Million Followers

For local businesses, Dan recommends people with geographic credibility rather than celebrities with large but irrelevant audiences. He also explains why narrowly focused creators can command more value than general influencers: their followers share a specific commercial interest.

  • Local athletes, broadcasters, and community figures can outperform remote celebrities.
  • Geographic relevance matters more than raw reach for a local business.
  • A niche creator may be more valuable with only tens of thousands of followers.
  • Dan gives a broad baseline of $300-$1,000 per 100,000 followers for a generalized influencer.

“You want the people that are the local ballers, local legends, local influencers?”

Dan Fleyshman · 16:00

“those 30,000 bike related followers are going to crush it.”

Dan Fleyshman · 19:15
#micro influencers#local marketing#niche audiences#creator pricing
Explainer19:55

Why Barefaced Makeup Creators Outsell Polished Models

Dan identifies makeup creators as exceptionally effective because audiences watch a visible transformation from a bare face to the final result. That process creates credibility and product trust that a polished final image cannot reproduce.

  • Transformation content exposes the process rather than only the result.
  • Audiences trust creators they see in an unpolished starting state.
  • A smaller instructional creator can outsell a larger polished account.
  • Photoshopped imagery may attract attention without creating purchase trust.

“Makeup influencers are hands down far and away the number one highest performing and highest paid in the game.”

Dan Fleyshman · 19:55

“The makeup influencers that just post final versions of makeup do not do well compared to barefaced.”

Dan Fleyshman · 20:16
#beauty#trust#influencer marketing#demonstration

Story· 4

Story03:33

How Cards and Coffee Reached $10 Million During the Shutdown

Dan describes investing $1.6 million of his own money to open a Hollywood sports-card store during the 2020 shutdown. The business reached $1 million in sales within eight weeks and $10 million within eight months before expanding from two locations to nine.

  • Gary Vaynerchuk named the Cards and Coffee concept.
  • Dan self-funded the first store because he did not want to raise during the shutdown.
  • The company later raised $4 million at a $36 million pre-money valuation.
  • Dan says this company was deliberately built for an eventual exit.

“I put in 1.6 million in my own money because I didn't want to raise money because the world was shut down.”

Dan Fleyshman · 03:33

“Eight weeks did a million sales, eight months hit 10 million bucks in sales.”

Dan Fleyshman · 03:33
#sports cards#retail#fundraising#pandemic
Story06:38

The Spilled-Water Test That Revealed a Founder's Character

While filming Going Public, Dan unknowingly faced a staged test involving a plant that leaked water onto the floor. He cleaned up the spill himself rather than summoning a secretary, and later learned that the two women involved were investors evaluating his behavior when he believed no cameras were present.

  • The production concealed the fact that Dan was being tested.
  • Dan accepted responsibility because he had spilled the water.
  • Other contestants reportedly handled the situation differently.
  • The exercise evaluated character outside a formal investor pitch.

“I spilled the water, so I'm cleaning the floor.”

Dan Fleyshman · 07:18

“That's what they were looking for is what would you do in real life situations if you don't think there's cameras around?”

Dan Fleyshman · 07:43
#character#leadership#investing#reality tv
Story27:10

How Cross-Marketing Replaced Millions in Sponsorship Spending

Before smartphones and modern social media, Dan promoted his beverage brand through relentless field sales and cross-marketing partnerships. When he could not afford major sponsorship fees, he traded promotional inventory and purchase commitments with organizations such as NASCAR, Circle K, state fairs, and grocery chains.

  • Dan sold the beverage into 55,000 stores over four years.
  • He carried branded drinks everywhere and continuously wore the brand.
  • Cross-marketing exchanged visibility for retail purchase commitments.
  • The approach secured major exposure without paying full sponsorship prices.

“There was nowhere I would go that I didn't have a backpack full of drinks.”

Dan Fleyshman · 27:10

“I did a lot of those cross marketing deals because I couldn't”

Dan Fleyshman · 28:02
#beverage#cross marketing#sponsorships#retail distribution
Story44:57

Why Dan Fleyshman Keeps His Name Off His Charity Movements

Dan describes hands-on charitable initiatives including emergency backpacks, food drives, toy drives, report-card rewards, and coordinated tipping dinners. He deliberately avoids centering his name because personal branding would cap each movement at the size of his own audience; instead, he teaches others to reproduce the activity independently.

  • The Model Citizen Fund directs every donated dollar to backpack supplies because Dan covers operating expenses.
  • The toy drive expanded across ten cities in fifteen days.
  • More than 4,000 coordinated tipping dinners reportedly occurred around the world.
  • Dan wants the charitable formats to continue and spread without requiring attribution to him.

“I want to inspire people to do their version of it.”

Dan Fleyshman · 46:59

“Meaning if it's about Dan, it's capped at how big Dan is.”

Dan Fleyshman · 47:49
#charity#legacy#toy drives#network effects

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway09:31

Why Raw Phone Content Beats an Eight-Day Editing Delay

Dan argues that creators become slow because they pursue ideal cameras, lighting, editing, and repeated takes. He prefers recording once on a phone, adding captions, and publishing while an event is still happening, reserving polished production for selected content.

  • Perfection can make content less relatable.
  • Phone footage enables rapid publication from live events.
  • Dan usually records a piece once rather than repeating it.
  • Raw and polished content can coexist in the same strategy.

“perfect is not relatable.”

Dan Fleyshman · 09:31

“I don't shoot it five times, I shoot it once, right?”

Dan Fleyshman · 10:12
#content creation#speed#authenticity#social media
Takeaway43:27

Create Relationships in Person, Then Carry Them on Social

Dan says live events create memories, experiences, and emotional bonds that social interaction alone cannot reproduce. Social media is valuable for maintaining those connections afterward, but it should not be mistaken for the origin of every meaningful relationship.

  • Dan organizes 42 events per year.
  • His events span business, charity, entertainment, and social gatherings.
  • Different event types connect him with different parts of his life and network.
  • Personal invitations help convert relationships into attendance and participation.

“You create memories, you create experiences, you create emotional bonds. That will never happen through social media.”

Dan Fleyshman · 43:36

“We create in person and we carry on on social.”

Jasmine Star · 43:59
#events#relationships#community#networking