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13 May 2025

The CEO’s Guide to Working ON Your Business (Not Just In It)

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The myth-busts, hot takes, explainers, and tools worth keeping.

Myth Buster· 1

Myth Buster22:40

Not Every Ground-Level Task Should Be Delegated

Working on the business does not require a CEO to eliminate every operational task. Jasmine retains activities only she can perform and deliberately keeps direct-message responses because they provide customer language, pain points, and immediate content feedback.

  • Some execution depends on the founder's identity or public role.
  • A task can remain strategically useful even if it is technically outsourceable.
  • Customer conversations reveal authentic language and hidden concerns.
  • Founders should distinguish intentional ground-level work from habitual bottlenecks.

“At this point in my business, I am absolutely doing bottom tier tasks.”

Jasmine Star · 22:40

“I like to respond to DMs because I truly like to get to know who's listening to the podcast.”

Jasmine Star · 23:33
#ceo#customer-research#delegation#social-media

Hot Take· 1

Hot Take18:23

Hire Around Proven Revenue Before Funding an Untested Initiative

Jasmine is cautious about adding headcount to a completely untested initiative because its return is unknown. She prefers to invest in help around an existing revenue-producing offer while personally absorbing more of the experimentation risk on a new offer.

  • Unknown ROI should limit initial spending.
  • Existing revenue provides a safer base for hiring.
  • The founder or a proven team can develop a new system before delegation.
  • Knowing the work improves later accountability.

“So if it is a completely brand new, never been marked territory, I'm very, very cautious with how much money we allocate to that because…”

Jasmine Star · 18:23

“I feel a lot more confident bringing on people to other projects that are already producing money.”

Jasmine Star · 18:23
#hiring#roi#revenue#risk#experimentation

Explainer· 1

Explainer20:31

How Jasmine Star Structures Work From CEO to Project Manager

Jasmine describes an organization that flows from the CEO to an integrator or operations leader, then to division directors, managers, and project managers. Division leaders establish direction, while project managers translate projects into assigned tasks, monitor progress, and coordinate dependencies.

  • The CEO sits above the integrator or operations leader.
  • Division directors oversee major business functions.
  • Managers may coordinate multiple strategies within a division.
  • Project managers track tasks, timing, and cross-team dependencies.
  • Not every organization needs every layer.

“Every business has its own org chart. They're all constructed differently.”

Jasmine Star · 20:31

“Now the project manager is the person who's watching the team get the tasks done.”

Jasmine Star · 21:54
#org-chart#operations#project-management#leadership

Q&A· 1

Q&A15:32

Use Employee Referrals Without Fully Abdicating Hiring

When a founder needed production help, Jasmine recommended asking existing employees to refer capable people and rewarding successful referrals after 90 days. Preliminary screening can be delegated, but she advised retaining final interviews while the team is still developing.

  • Good employees may know other strong candidates.
  • A delayed finder's fee rewards referrals that result in durable hires.
  • Someone else can conduct preliminary screening.
  • The founder can retain final interviews to understand who joins the team.

“If you if they refer somebody and they stay on your team for more than 90 days, give them a finder's fee.”

Jasmine Star · 15:32

“I wouldn't abdicate the entirety of your hiring quite yet.”

Jasmine Star · 15:32
#hiring#referrals#team#interviews

Takeaway· 2

Takeaway00:00

Why Bigger Businesses Still Struggle With What to Do Next

Jasmine observed the same prioritization problem among founders running businesses of very different sizes. Knowing what needs to happen does not automatically reveal the right sequence, so uncertainty about the next move is not proof that a founder is behind.

  • Prioritization problems persist as revenue grows.
  • Founders often know the required initiatives but not their sequence.
  • Feeling overwhelmed is not evidence of entrepreneurial failure.

“These people founders, entrepreneurs, they know what to do, but they just felt a little bit shaky on the order in which to do it.”

Jasmine Star · 00:00

“You are not behind. You are not doing anything different. It is normal to sometimes feel overwhelmed with what is the next best step.”

Jasmine Star · 01:02
#founders#overwhelm#scaling#priorities
Takeaway16:01

Replace the Founder-Control Story With a Measurable Quality Standard

Jasmine challenged the belief that handing off fulfillment would inevitably damage customer orders. Instead of relying on the founder's anxiety, the team can establish a quality target, track exceptions, and identify accountability for every order.

  • Unexamined founder beliefs can block delegation.
  • Trust grows when people consistently do what they committed to do.
  • A concrete accuracy target makes quality observable.
  • Named ownership allows mistakes to be diagnosed without founder involvement in every order.

“So how do we build trust? We build trust by you doing what you say you're going to do.”

Jasmine Star · 16:01

“And so when we see ourselves in that bottom tier of work, we have to ask ourselves what system is not in place? What story…”

Jasmine Star · 16:50
#delegation#trust#quality#accountability